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18/04/2011

CUB to come up in Motihari, Nitish tells Centre

Patna,(BiharTimes): Chief Minister Nitish Kumar on Mondday once again reiterated that the proposed Central University of Bihar would come up in Motihari and nowhere else in the state.


Talking to newsmen on the sidelines of Janata Darbar he said it is now hundred per cent sure that the CUB would be set up in Motihari, the district headquarters of East Champaran.

He said the state government had already written to the Centre about it that the university would come up there. He said Union Human Resource Minister Kapil Sibal would come here on Tuesday to lay the foundation of the new campus of IIT Patna in Bihta. At present it is running on the campus of the Pataliputra Polytechnique.

He informed that the state government had acquired land for the proposed off-campus branch of the Aligarh Muslim University in Kishanganj. About 100 acres of land has also been acquired for NIT, Patna.

 

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Dr. Ravi Shankar has made the points very clear. I want to ask one basic question: If any institution / organization do have a pre-decided criteria for site selection for its establishment, who are the politicians to suggest any location forcefully? And it is very obvious that Bihar does not have any criteria for anything. It all depends on the wills of politicians. Primary School teachers are being selected without any convincing criteria. A big park is being developed on a prime commercial land in front of the railway station, showing the short sightedness of the present state government, as far as land-use planning is concerned.

The Nitish government simply wants to justify what they do. Like, organizing tests for the school teachers who were appointed on contractual basis. This is ridiculous. We do not have any criteria for anything, it does not mean that we overlook other's system. I have heard that the Bihar government has requested the University Grants Commission to exempt the Bihari students to qualify NET in the appointment of Lecturer / Assistant Professor, arguing that there are only a few NET qualified candidates in the state. It is shameful. Why the state do not organize a state level eligibility test duly accredited by the UGC? It will help state's youths to get teaching job in other state's too.

If the state really want to do good in the field of higher education, they should at first the condition of existing colleges and state universities. Nitish government has not taken any step in the last 6 years to improve the condition of higher education in the state universities.

The state's pressure to shift the central university to Motihari is completely political. The state started three institution: Chandragupta Institute of Management, Patna, Chanakya National Law University, and Aryabhatta Knowledge University, all are to be established at Patna. Why the visionary CM did not establish any of these institutions in Motihari, if he wanted to do something better for the place.

Samir Kumar Sinha, Ph.D.
Patna

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This is fantastic Idea to have any new set up in a city (may be small) which does not have it….. MOTIHARI or any other district or subdivision head quarter will work ….

Some eminent and respected writers here have done all to defame Bihar by writing too many crap..

1st of all let me respond to Mr Ray…. Sir..You may be romanticizing about other state and mentioned central universities but reality is far away from the way it sounds from outside….90% of the university that you have mentioned gives 65% unemployable graduates …please wake up… Aligarh, Benaras, Jamia and Allahabad are the worst in lot…. The kind of question you have raised like (political interference, unwillingness to join in small town and last but not the least THE political issue against Nitish Electricity ) are simply laughable and NOT ACCEPTABLE by Bihar Civil society… We have been the most civilized and progressive in our approach than rest of the India and when I say this I do not necessarily mean people of PATNA but the whole Bihar…

You Love for Central University is beyond understanding , check their data and see their usability by the WORLD …believe you me you would Laugh…. For us it does not matter where it is coming but the issue is whether it is coming or not….. Extrreme urban mentality has lead us to a loapsided development where only 8-10 cities gets all the attention and rest are left on grace of GOD…If you ever think of creating social balance and also wants people to stay at their place and not create rush in few cities we will have to develop many cities and steps like these will only help to build confidence in small cities… (currently all GAON wala love to call himself metro wala, please avoid this… SOUNDS utter stupid…


Now Mr Ravi Shankar….your approach sound more political than having a genuine concern about what will happen to proposed university in Motihari….. More to my surprise this is coming from a person who writes PHD instead of prefixing Dr J

You are sounding so disgusted being a Bihari and love to compare with states which looks, sound and give feel to be amazing and developed either in Media or Statistical Data published by GOI… If you are trying to teach there but does not want to move in a small city does not mean No one will do…. Most of the famous campuses are made outside cities… It takes 5-6 hrs dirty driving to reach Kharagpur… Are you saying that the Allahabad and Benaras Universities have fabulous roads and electricity…. Please note that with growing facitlities and funds with urbanization have only resulted in degradation of these universities including Aligarh, Jamia etc…

We need more educational, health, industrialization in small cities not city like Patna which is crumbling under pressure created by small town Migrants….

ITS been too long for people of Bihar who send their kids to study in cities where families of TEACHERS are happy….. Please note if you are a good quality teacher you would move anywhere because idea is to teach not to get a highly paid JOB where wife and family is happy (Your quote regarding no good teachers agreeing to go is Rubbish)

We need all out development keeping Regional Balance Intact ….. Motihari and rest of the Bihar is fabulously connected to all cities of India (don’t give poor reasoning), Electricity is problem but you are daydreaming that if made in patna this problem will not surface…. Govt needs to work to give electr to entire state and we are hopefull that sooner or later that would come…..

Lastly comparing with other state is mere a JOKE because please note that we are much more liberated and better administered than most of the other states that you have mentioned…

Randheer Jha
Madhubani (currently in new delhi)

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IF you want to establish a Central university, and not just an institute of higher learning, it should have research facilities as well as research facilities, and should train and educate in all three levels of higher-education, including the Ph.D. level. A university is an institute that encompasses more than one discipline or faculty, and therefore there should be a more "universal", all encompassing, approach.

The foundation of a new university requires, therefore, extensive infrastructure and resources, usually beneath the abilities of only one person (unless you are BillGates-ga). A university would require,normally:
- faculty
- research and teaching facilities
- administrative staff and infrastructure
- Boys and Girls Hostel
- A Huge Library
- sports Complex
- a good Dicipline
- Different Profession courses
- Campus Placement
- good Qulity of Student
- good hospital with Doctor

Motihari will provide a free environment for Girls ???? other Parts of Bihar student prefer to study in Motihari??who will take guaranty that Local body will not interfare ?? Good Faculty will prefer to join job in Motihari???who will take guaranty of 24 hour Electricity in Motihari??Below is central University Name which is providing Above Facility Think Seriously is Motihari Provide Above Facility????

Because CUB is a good Opportunity to improve education level in BIHAR

Aligarh Muslim University · Assam University · Babasaheb Bhimrao Ambedkar University · Banaras Hindu University · Central Agricultural University · English and Foreign Languages University · Guru Ghasidas University · Dr. Hari Singh Gour University · Hemwati Nandan Bahuguna Garhwal University · Indira Gandhi National Open University · Jamia Millia Islamia · Jawaharlal Nehru University · Mahatma Gandhi Antarrashtriya Hindi Vishwavidyalaya · Manipur University · Maulana Azad National Urdu University · Mizoram University · Nagaland University · North Eastern Hill University · Pondicherry University · Rajiv Gandhi University · Sikkim University · Tezpur University · Tripura University · University of Allahabad · University of Delhi · University of Hyderabad · Visva-Bharati University

Alok S Ray
Baroda-

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This is in response of few letters by some readers, who felt that advocating for CUB in Patna is wrongly motivated. Few have been decent in their writing while some has written like a typical road chaap, doing personal attack without knowing the person.

Anyway, no one is against Motihari or any Part of Bihar. Every Part of Bihar is equally important as Patna. This is not the question. The question is the reality check whether Motihari at present or in coming time would be able to sustain the requirements to host a global quality institution, considering the present situation? Few people cited example of IIT Kharagpur and BITS Pilani as the institutions started from some remote areas. However they completely ignore the fact that you can't compare these states with Bihar where everything is collapsed and people have to think for even basic minimal infrastructural requirements. Not a single place in entire Bihar has quality auditorium to host international seminars and workshops, there are hardly any good place for hangout, malls or social quality life out there. Real situation of security and law is still bad outside Patna.

Had Motihari been in Punjab, Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, Bangalore, Delhi even Orissa, I would not have questioned it at all, as none of these places are struggling for basic necessities, power, roads, connectivity, etc. These places have people who are pro-development. In Gujarat I have seen farmers cheerfully cooperating in land transfering to open unviersities and institutions, Nano moved to Gujarat from WB because Sanand had people who were more pro-development than WB. But can people here gurantee that same kind of people are there in Bihar? A major reason for power crisis has been power theft, who does that? Not any outsider? You give anything sleek to them and just see them spotted with guthka pan, chair broken, fans missing. Control and administration is still in hopeless situation there.

Now just sharing a bitter truth about CUB, which I know very personally. CUB has advertised for faculty positions. For past two years this university has been running in Patna, without faculties! Fact is that no one is willing to join CUB. No good guy is willing to apply to it. I personally tried to move some of the guys whom I know and are close friends. All are apprehensive about the Motihari location.

whether one truthfully acknowledges or not, even today itself people are not trusting Bihar and its government. Everything is not road and bicycle. There have been lots of differences between things declared in media and in actual. You can't compare Bihar with Gukarat Rajasthan or Bangal. if you do then first ask Bihar government that why it has not been able to solve the most basic and prominent issue of power crisis in Bihar despite of occupying seat for past 6 years? Gujarat and Rajasthan have solved it on their own, so almost all states of India. So if you talk about projectile, believe me it is not that good for Bihar. It is still ranking lowest and least developed state, worst literacy, maximum ill qualified teachers. Man, things doing on paper and doing hastly without head will give the political mileage for the concerned but nothing to Bihar. ^ years have passed, Patna has not a single secure place for socializing, or some malls, good theatres, really good reliable hospitals. everything has only deteriorated with time. And once you go outside, it is living hell. So are you asking those faculties coming to CUB to stay in Motihari, lead a life like Naseeruddin shah's art movie, die in absence of good hospital, convert their children as uneducated ones deprived of basic facilities? Why you are expecting so much sacrifice from a common man while not able to demand your basic rights form a government who is fooling you continuously? And even then you are adment, then first take account of all the already existing instiutions in Bihar and their conditions. In Motihari too there are colleges and schools, I ask Rafey Anwar like people that why then they escaped to Punjab. He should have studied in colleges and schools there who are exisiting there? either he will have no answer or no truthful answer. First ask your government to maintain already existing colleges and institutions there and ensure that they can provide quality in Motihari too. Don't make central instiution of global rank to become an experimental object. Otherwise you have very bad record to even get a single good primary school.

So finally I am not against places outside Patna. Develop them. But development should have direction. Nitish Kumar is from Land of Chankaya but have forgotten the famous story of Chandragupta Chanakya where Chankaya had suggested to Chandragupta to eat Khichdi from sides not from middle, initiate from places from where you are strong not from weak. Without any doubt, Patna should be that place, the centre of all experiments. Only when success is met, extend it to beyond Patna. If CUB runs well from Patna, I tell you ways for other institutions in Bihar will open in followup and then government could force to place it in Muzzafarpur or Hajipur. If this one too goes well, then reach the most remote Motihari. You can't pump life from toes but from heart. It is a basic sense and this is what I talked and suggest. Already NIPER at Patna is not setting any great example, and projecting Bihar as looser, setting up CUB in Motihari will just put the final seal on Bihar that it is not mature enough to run a central institution, and in followup it will give a good excuse to the central government to avoid Bihar. I think few readers here who had interacted with Sam Pitroda regarding cause of opening IISER in Bihar and that too in Patna, had faced the same question and answer! People here talk about Patna University as a central university. UGC team when came to evaluate it, they found it not even eligible to get two stars on NAAC accreditation. Faculties there have hardly any ECF. God knows with what face they demand to convert it to central university. The quality of faculties there is so much bygone now, the course syllabus is outdated, facutlies have become politicians or real estate agents. They will run a centeal university? A fresh central university like CUB and that too from Patna is needed. And if suceeds, only them ways will be paved for better education and academics in Bihar. (Not to heart sentiments here)


Ravi Shankar, PhD

 

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I think Nitish Kumar is very right in proposing the CUB at Motihari.I think connectivity is no issue with the completion of 4-lane project. Power, water and other basic facilities will come as well.

Just getting every University in Patna is a defeatist attitude, giving up on the idea that rest of Bihar will ever progress.

IIT Kharagpur and BITS Pilani are known examples and there are many many more examples where centers of Excellances were develiped in areas wehere no one though it will ever develop.

IIT kharagpur started its first batch in Kharagpur jail campus.

We should support growth of Institutions, Industries and Infrastructre in every part of Bihar. Towns like Bhagalpur, Muzaffarpur, Darbhanga, Kahalgaon, Banka all need to be developed.

Patna is no doubt the crown of Bihar but rest need growth stimulus as well.

Himanshu Shekhar, Singapore

 

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It is really difficult to understand the confrontation between Central Govt. & Bihar Govt. on the Central University of Bihar, I do'nt think any problem with Motihari as the town is on NH 28/NH 28A(now 4-lane on East West Corrider NHAI project), only 137 KM from Patna Airport, 24 Hrs electricity can be manageble any where in in India, only need a dedicated transmission line is required from any nearby super grid, in my opinion solution for the situation are simple.

1. Covert Seventh oldest South Asian University(Patna University) as Central University from now 2. Setup new Central University of Bihar in Motihari in comping 3 Years

Bihar really need number of good institutions, why do'nt our politician understand the need of a region that really need quality institution for the cause of social & economic development of entire region.

After completion of Patna-Muzaffarpur NHAI 4-lane Project Motihari will be only 3Hrs away from Patna.

Piyush Nimiyar
Delhi

 

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I’m rafey anwar . reading the crappy comments given by shoddy people for the inception of central university in motihari I would like to say that it is a gorgeous decision taken by the most esteemed cm nitish ji . think once , according to the people” who are in opposed of this decision” that CUB should be established near patna, mujaffarpur, bihta, it means all the university which in future goin to be made should be established near this above stated district, it means all the student who want to persui his carrer would have to come to this place and according to them one who has bucks can persui his degree(because to live in place remote to the home there is a need of money) finally the situation would be same as earlier that only money hoarder can give education to their children . So giving this logical thought I can assure that the decisive step taken by nitish ji is quite right .

In favour to the decision I want to state that the place for CUB is goin to be made in right place because at least poor people who cant afford education to their children outside their home can give at least education to them which is better then uneducation . I’m not saying that the education system would be best but atleast he would be saved from uneducated. And more over breakthrough is being made by every sense i.e  the road , electricity ,administration, education.. etc  in bihar. so there must be govmental education system in countryside so that poor people can read being at their home …….thats all

Rafey anwar

Punjab

Basically from katihar(bihar).

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Nitish Kumar should understand the importance of Central University. Not only think about vote bank & social balance.
To host a central university , you need to have 24 hours electricity, well connected by roads , rails and airports .
Patna , Hazipur, Bihta , Bakhtiyarpur is only suitable place for Central University.
Because The Professor & lecturer(highly qualified) will not like to join a job In Motihari .
So I Request from Nitish Ji Please think seriously & consider above issue.( ignore Contradict from Central Govt because finally we will losser)
Because Central Govt will only show interest Near Patna for CUB. Otherwise unnecessary Project of CUB will Delay.
Alok S Ray
Baroda

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Location does support some logistics, but is not an essential condition.
For an example, Pilani, Rajasthan is 217 KM away from Jaipur, Rajasthan, and is 197 KM away from New Delhi. Despite that BITS, Pilani is India’s one of the finest technical institutes. Motihari is just 157 KM away from Patna, and is well connected.

Sudhir Ranjan

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I now seriously feel that future of Bihar is bleek as Nitish Kumar does not look much different from other Bihari politicians like Lallu etc. No sane person with vision would ever place such a hardly earned central university to die an automatic death by placing it to remote place like Motihari. In Bihar, at present no place is suitable for opening a central Institution barring Patna. To host a central university when you aim high, you need to have 24 hours electricity, well connected by roads , rails and airports. No one would go to Motihari. Forget qualified faculties, I fear that even sweepers could start aiming for faculty position in CUB, Motihari! Even suppliers would not come there. Just see the condition of NIPER Hajipur in RMRI Patna, full of non-descript faculties and no achievements.

Nitish kumar is either playing some really dirty politics or he as vision-less as a mole, who has got hype, PR managed popularity while on ground he is not much different from a typical Bihari politician. I feel sorry for Bihar that time and again she has got only third rate leaders and backstabbers, who are ultimate loosers.

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Ravi Shankar, PhD

 

 

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